Feedback from other visitors (and victims)
Here is some feedback that I've
found and received from
others. Keep it coming!
"I have sold the Pronmans several hemi cars over the years. they are testy but I
never had any major issues. The Pronmans did threaten to sue one of my customers
when he bought a car they thought that they had tied-up. Too bad they did not
take him on as I think he would have buried them. That seems to be the biggest
problem with the Pronmans - they act like spoiled little brats and threaten
litigation whenever they don't get what they want!"
"I really admire you making a stand and doing what is right in an unfortunate
situation. Too many people just look the other way and that allows a small group
of idiots to mess with the hobby we love."
"It is sad to say that I too am a victim of the Pronman brothers. I took the
legal route to resolve my problems with them, but we settled out of court. As
much as I'd like to provide you the grim details, I can't due to a gag agreement
that was incorporated into the settlement. Maybe I'd be forced to provide
details if you subpoenaed me? Regardless, I commend you on your effort to raise awareness
through the web and other means. I wish I had done the same thing. Keep up the
effort for all our sake."
"I also made the mistake of
purchasing a Mopar restored by Movie Star Muscle Cars. They
stated it was "fully documented" but when it arrived, it didn't even have a
build sheet. They won't answer my phone calls nor return my messages. In
addition, the quality of their restoration was so poor, I had to send the car
off to Ken Mosier for a complete, proper and expensive re-restoration. From what
I've heard, Ken has had to re-restore more than one of the abominations that
came out of the Pronman's shop. I hope you bury these guys!"
"I was working with Dan Pronman to transport a car bought by a Canadian
client, Ontario titled in the Pronman’s name, but was housed in the U.S. I asked
Dan to handle booking shipping and transport. Since the car was in the Pronman’s
name, they were simply bringing their car home with no VAT due at customs. Dan
took advantage of the situation by confusing the buyer into thinking VAT was due
and collected the tax, payable directly to Movie Star Muscle Cars, not the
"I tried to transact business with Dan Pronman. We agreed to trade each other
for different date-coded Hemi carburetors. I sent my carburetor to Dan. Here we
are over year later and he still hasn't sent me back the carburetor he owes me.
I used to feel I was ripped off but that was until I learned of your story...
which puts my loss in perspective. I hope you get your money back from them."
"I commend you on your
website and efforts to out these criminals. There are just entirely too many
guys in this hobby for the money and too few for the love of the cars. Some of
these guys are basically living off of what they make on these cars, so many
would not think twice about trying to get an extra $10g for misrepresenting a
non-matching number car with a re-stamped engine. To pull what these guys did,
to me is just beyond belief. Best of luck with your lawsuit and do us all a
favor by putting these guys out of business."
"I have read the new Mopar Collectors Guide and your web page about the two
special brothers from DDO (which is just 20 minutes from where I live). These
two are a real SPECIAL PAIR if you get my drift. If you need info on these two
and where to get them, or some other info, I would be glad to help you, as this
is a bad mark on the Mopar family. I know you have to go through channels and
the lawyers to solve this, but we are here to help if we can"
"Pronman (Conman) sued our
Home Owners Association for frivolous matters and has been a pain in our asses for years! Keep up
the good work."
"You are probably a better
man than me. When you're talking $84,000, rather than taking the high road and
spending my money on lawyers, I most likely would spend the money on a hit-man.
Why do they continue to allow this guy to continue to post on the Supercar site?"
"They bought a car from me
and were supposed to send me a certified check for 10k got a check for 2k and
then backed out of the deal. Always drama with them. Call David G. at Legendary
Motorcars in Toronto - he has had problems with them too!"
"I would like to thank you
for standing up and doing something about being the victim of fraud. Most people
are too afraid to do something and many of them end up eating the loss due to
self pride. I have been a few legal fights myself and know how much money, time
and effort they require. I also know that eventually, stallers run out of legal
tricks and must face their day in court. As long as you can financially stay in
the fight so you can get to the dance, you will win. Hang in there!"
"I am sorry to hear about
your situation. One of the reasons that I started my business was because there
are so many instances of good hobbyists being taken by unscrupulous people.
After viewing some of the sites listed and the description of your situation I
will remove Pronman from my page. $84,000 is a serious chunk of change, I really
hope that you are looking at taking legal action as this kind of behavior is
Negative or Neutral Feedback on eBay
- "Dishonest way more
miles that reported, top leak repair, cost way more etc." 01/11/2015
- "Will not answer
e-Mails, very bad practive. Very slow shipping from Canada not NY"
- "Sent money. Never
received item. No Contact from seller 6/18/09. Beware."
- "Pics make part look
stock, but seller drilled holes in it."
- "Item was described as
ALMOST NEW ORIGINAL. Received as cleaned up piece."
- "I paid immediately and
Dan would not sell me parts I won. (I did get money back)"
- "Did not want to act
right about the paperwork."
- "A real
used car salesman here folks - I wouldn't buy a pack of gum from him!"
on title - not in name of seller - my state requires vehicle inspection.
Problems with title should be disclosed before sale."