Gary Pronman
  Buyer Beware - Learn how to protect yourself from dishonest people that prey on classic car collectors

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Gary Pronman, Dan Pronman and Movie Star Musclecars attempted to defraud me of $84,000 in April 2009.

The problem started back in 2009 when the Pronman brothers, Gary and Dan, offered to "broker" a collectible classic car to me. We agreed to the amount. The Pronmans "forwarded" a bill of sale from a third party and I promptly wired full payment to that third party's bank account. Subsequently, the Pronmans didn't tender the car, the paperwork, nor did they even disclose the car's actual location for more than seven years. It turns out that the third party that the Pronmans "brokered" the vehicle from was a company Movie Star Muscle Cars  -- a Quebec-based company with little to no revenues or assets co-owned by the Pronmans. The lawsuit remains ongoing, though in late 2016, the judge ordered the Pronmans to disclose the location and release the car & paperwork and they complied.

In November 2013 we discovered that the Pronmans offered a partially restored 1970 440+6 Challenger Convertible for sale, (VIN JS27V0B100415), under the alias of "Max" with a phone number of (321) 305-9878. This cars has since been sold, though it demonstrates how easy it is to mislead someone online using an alias. Always be careful as it's very for predators to create numerous fake identities, including email address and virtual phone numbers!  

Don't just take my word for it. I'm not the Pronman's only victim. Other reputable car collectors, including Bill Ockerlund, Jurgen Stanley, Wade Ogle, Mike Pietranico and Joey Lange have also found themselves regretting their relationships with the Pronmans -- just ask them!

The Pronmans are certainly not the only predators to be found in the classic car world! There are other individuals including Dennis Tuttle and Fred Engelhart that you need to be extremely cautious with. Tuttle and Engelhart have both served time in prison for their crimes.

Follow these recommendations to protect yourself

By making my story public, I hope that you can learn from my experiences and my financial losses. Whether you're buying or the selling, please make sure you research the vehicle and the person(s) or entity you're dealing with! Ask for photo ID; verify the clear title, and do the deal in person.

This website & blog is a public service resource available to all enthusiasts. Remember - con artists count on the fact that most victims are too embarrassed to come forward. It's best to avoid becoming a victim, however, if it happens, be vocal so that you can warn others. If you have any stories or advice you'd like to share, please provide feedback.

My lawsuit against the Pronmans is not an attempt to profit. Ultimately, I hope someday to actually take possesion of the car I paid the Pronmans for (and as of 2017, we're now close to realizing that goal). Should the Pronmans actually pay any of the judgments I already have against them, I will donate 100% of the proceeds to charity. This is not an attempt to profit or win -- it is to protect other hobbists.

 

Updated: July 2017

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