Dan Pronman and
Movie Star Musclecars attempted to defraud me of
$84,000 in April 2009.
The problem started back
in 2009 when the Pronman
brothers, Gary and Dan, offered to "broker" a collectible classic car to me.
We agreed to
the amount. The Pronmans "forwarded" a bill of sale from a third
party and I promptly wired full payment to that third party's
Subsequently, the Pronmans didn't tender the car, the paperwork,
nor did they even disclose the car's actual location for more
than seven years. It turns out that the third party that the Pronmans "brokered" the vehicle from was
a company Movie Star Muscle Cars
-- a Quebec-based company with little to no revenues or assets
co-owned by the Pronmans. The lawsuit remains ongoing,
though in late 2016, the judge ordered the Pronmans to
disclose the location and release the car and they
complied, yet unfortunately they never provided a clear,
marketable title for the vehicle.
In November 2013 we discovered that
the Pronmans offered a partially restored
1970 440+6 Challenger Convertible for sale,
under the alias of "Max" with a phone
number of (321) 305-9878. This cars has since been sold,
though it demonstrates how easy it is to mislead someone online
using aliases along with disposable phone numbers and email
Don't just take my word for it.
I'm not the only person to have serious problems wit the Pronman
brothers. Other reputable car collectors, including Bill Ockerlund, Jurgen Stanley,
Wade Ogle, Mike Pietranico and Joey Lange have also found
themselves regretting their dealings with the Pronmans -- just ask
The Pronmans are certainly not the
only predators to be found in the classic car world!
are other individuals including
Tuttle and Fred Engelhart
that you need to be extremely cautious with.
Tuttle and Engelhart have both served time in prison for their crimes.
Other news & cases of deception,
fraud and/or problems in the industry:
By making my story public, I
hope that you can learn from my experiences and my financial losses. Whether you're buying or the
selling, please make sure you research the vehicle and the person(s) or entity
you're dealing with! Ask for photo ID; verify the clear title, and
execute the deal/transaction in person.
This website & blog is a public service
resource available to all enthusiasts. Remember - con artists count on the fact that most
victims are too embarrassed to come forward. It's best to avoid becoming
a victim, however, if it happens, be vocal so that you can warn others.
If you have any stories or
advice you'd like to share, please provide